Sebastian – Russian episode. 14 years in Affiliate Marketing. Master of popunder traffic

Affiliate marketing is dead.Do you want to be in affiliate marketing for the rest of your life? If possible, sure. Have you ever wanted to, you are familiar with, to do somethingthat has an impact, good affect? For the world countries? Mm-hmm. No , not really. I love to to sit in the frontof my computer, to be addressed the screen, to look at the tables, at the stats, at the numbersand…As a medal we can have your, you know, privateone-to-one coaching. What do you think about it? Sure. So, you were making, like, practically $13,000 monthly. A month, yeah. With no work at all.Hi everybody! ZorbasMedia now, an informational beginning about affiliate marketing and trafficarbitrage. We talk to the most notable companies and beings in the world of affiliate marketingand are trying to understand what it takes to achieve success and build a solid onlinebusiness.For that we trip the world to visit our heroes, but today we decided todo things differently. We invited our guests to visit us here in Saint Petersburg, Russia.The affiliate community in Russia is huge and it’s growing very fast. And we just recollected, why not to show a part of this beautiful country to our audience? A few texts about our guest.He has been involved in affiliate marketing for virtually 14 times, is cooperating with all kindof commerce and constituted lots of money. Let me feed you to Sebastian from Germany, andlet’s talk affiliate marketing.Hey, Sebastian.Do you have any safaruss that are being feed right now while we are walking? At this moment, for sure. But I have no active campaigns I have to take care of or have tomaintain. So, for the time being here I stopped everything so that I don’t have to worry aboutit. But then I also have some expeditions that are running for some … for many years previously, for four, five, six years. And they are just, you know, simply running.For five years? You have safaruss that are being run for five years? Yeah, yeah, sure. Jesus.And, of course, these are running, and I don’t have to do anything. In the end I time needto check every few weeks or so, adjust a little a order or, I don’t knowDo “youre supposed to”, you know, do any kind of optimization? No, they are optimized.So, they are just run on the background, various kinds of, and simply bring you money? Yes, it’s like, it’s like a little, I would say, my auteur adjustment.And whennothing is running, these campaigns are still moving and bringing some money. And, yeah, prettymuch easy to keep them running. Do you have anyone who helps you with yourcampaigns when you are, you are familiar with, apart? Me, myself and I.MegaPush. It’s the first and biggest approach notification ad network. Claim your 15% topup on your first sediment regardless of the amount. Link in the description. And goodluck with testing! What kind of traffic have you had your handson in all the time throughout your vocation? Yeah, I started with pier-to-pier traffic, tide transaction, then in 2009 -2 010 I also loped Facebook traffic. Of trend, all the timeI too measured expose flag transaction and now I principally lead papa freight. For many years Ifocused … my primary congestion was PPV traffic, AdWords traffic. Yeah, so, many different, and I too had some campaigns flowing promoting responsibility renders. And, so, yeah, many differentthings All kinds of traffic, pretty much.Yes, yes.I too tested some viral traffic a bit, some comments and stuff. So, I triedmany different things. The only thing I never truly tried is search engine optimization.But besides that pretty much everything? Yeah, many different things, yes.Have “youve been” tried push notifications? Yes, I firstly tried them in 2012 or so.Alright. I thought its kind of new generator of traffic.Yeah, yeah. This is what everyone is thinking, but it’s not somewhat … it’s not really new.They were there many years ago previously, but there’s a … As far as I retain, it wasmore like in-app notification. Yeah, that was in-app, yeah.And then Google cracked down on it and removed numerous apps from their Play Store, or App Store, whatever it was called in those days.And so, yeah, it was not that large-hearted anymore. Andnow with entanglement move notification it comes back again and too gets bigger and, for sure, I also measured push here and there, but I didn’t have any big campaigns running there, andit’s also … Yeah, it’s an interesting congestion, and I know you can promote many differentverticals with it, but I think to myself as long as pop traffic is doing good for me, why should I then switch to something else? Are you focusing on some specific verticals? Yes, it’s not that I, that I range them alone and nothing else, for certain, I likewise experiment differentthings, but I would say I have about two or three verticals I really like to run and whereI try to Let called them.Yeah, I like to run a financial material, for example.I like to run CPI stuff and alsoI like to run marketings, so, but Sales. Like what? Like nutra, various kinds of? No , no , no. All kinds of auctions. More from traditional networks, you are familiar with , good-for-nothing todo with CPA stuff. So, that can be for clothing storages or electronic devices.But as for popunder, is it also working? Ok , no. This is not working that good forpopunder.This is for … Ok, but for popunder traffic? Yeah, popunder, its actually more like the best is, in my opinion, financial stuffand too, yeah, probably What various kinds of business substance? It’s like loansor No , no , no , no. For example, cryptos.You know, I’m really surprised that crypto offers are still working.Yes. And do you still range them? Yes. And what median ROI you look? It’s … I would say, some … What is decent ROI for you? For example, I will try to focus on expeditions with pretty high ROI, and is not merely, you are familiar with, not ROI when you then have to get your profit by volume. And I try to, I try to get 100% ROI on my campaigns. Of route, it’s not every time possible, but this I would say is1 00 plus, “youre telling”? Yes, yes. I would say this is the minimumI try to reach.So, and it’s so when … It’s not every time possible, but specially whenyou have higher payout offers, then it’s often good to work with, and for this crypto stuff, actually, I’m not into all these things myself. I never bought any cryptocurrencies myselfor so. I don’t know anything, and I don’t even know how it’s working. I know it’s calledblockchain, but I don’t know how it’s working or what it does and I don’t even know forwhat to you use it, but I know that the gives are altering and so thats all I can tellabout it , not more.And for what countries you run crypto offers? The countries, principally Western European countries, Northern … Higher tier countries, because…Also when … the things too when you run them on CPA, for example, it’s mostly thatalmost for all of the offers the first time deposit is $ 250. And so, you can imagine $250 in a country like South Africa or India is a little bit different compared to countrieslike Germany or USA or Canada. So, it forms more impression to run them also in the highertier countries. And “youre running” them on pop-under traffic? Yes. What is the first thing that’s coming to yourmind when you listen Russia? Vodka.Cheers, somebody. Welcome to Mother Russia. You can speak a little bit of Russian? Tellme a little bit about that. How “d you learn” it? You know, theres very few things I know. But, you are familiar with, the rest is more like the cursingstuff you don’t want to tell honestly in public. How did you learn it? All these fundamental words.When I was younger, I was living for about, I contemplate, three years in the former GDR, youknow, Eastern Germany.And then when I came back seventh gradation we had to choose the secondforeign usage, and we could choose between French and Russian.So, you took Russian? Of trend, of course.Do you know that affiliate community is quite big-hearted in here.I know. And do you know any Russian affiliates byany probability? I don’t think so, but it’s pretty funny Iwas thinking, I imagine, last year or two years ago I was thinking about freshening my Russiananyway because I see that more and more CPA networks from Russia are available, or maybenot all of them for the worldwide community that were maybe already active in Russia orfor longer, and likewise more traffic beginnings, and I belief Yeah, I necessitate, I can stillread the Cyrillic language and maybe it’s good to refresh the Russian.And yeah, so, it’s pretty nice to finally be here. Yeah, thank you for coming. As for Germanaffiliate community, is it also big-hearted? Do you know numerous German affiliates? No, I don’t know many. I know personally I only convene one in my totality life.Really? But also I don’t, I don’t attend these affiliateconference and this stuff because Yeah, again, I just like to work certainly on my ownjust for me.And so, I don’t know … I know there are many German affiliates, and alsosome very successful ones, but I don’t have really big insights into the German communityitself, so Why have you never saw any of affiliateconferences? No Usually it’s … Maybe it sounds prettystrange when I’m, you know, walking around here with you, but in the end I certainly don’tlike the publicity or being in public and precisely just wanted to, you know, softly work in thebackground just for me. And so, I don’t really like to go to these seminars. I alreadymade good six people before I even knew basically what is affiliate marketing. I had no ideawhat is anything. I … for several years I didn’t use any moving software, I didn’tknow about any traffic sources or CPA networks.So, you precisely were sitting in front of yourcomputer on your own and were spawning six chassis. I don’t know, I just … Yeah. But when I started, I time but it’s a pretty funny story in the end. I got my first computer in 2005. It was a used one, and there was only Windows positioned and no seem drive, theres wasnothing. I had no internet and so I could do nothing with the computer in the end.How did you acquire your first fund in the Internet? Well, at this time I was using flows alot, you are familiar with, for downloading law material, of course.Of trend. And so, yeah, this is how I knew. I entail, in the cloudburst patient you can see how many people download the stuff, and this meansthere’s congestion available.And so I just said I would use it to my advantage, and I alsoused it to raising beings to the forum. And so, I simply, yeah, I exactly had, you know, someRAR password archives, originated some really, really, actually cheap arriving pages, websites, whatever you would call it. How did you producing traffic to your websites? With Tides. I uploaded the cloudbursts to some, you know, torrent download websites, and beings downloaded my flows, and then it was, you are familiar with, in a password, in RAR archive, and when they want to get to the content, there was a … precisely a link to my website whereI had a password.And really it’s the cheapest and truly most basic and simple websitesyou can imagine with only And passwords were on your website? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was really really on websites that has no such real material. It was just, youknow, the name of the torrent, the passwords, and that’s all. And then I just set some somebanners on the website and, yeah, that’s all. Do you like all this computer stuff in general? Are you a computer nerd? Not really , not really. I necessitate Not really.I like to play around sometimes with software and I’m interested … It’s interesting whatelse you can do with it, but in the end I … Yeah, computer itself, from the technicalside, sure, it’s pretty interesting, but all the Internet stuff is what I truly don’tlike and I’m absolutely no friend of all these things.So, when did you start to be an affiliate marketer full experience? This was in January 2009. At this time I still, I had a nine-to-five job and I made some holidayin January, and I previously had no it was not a full-time job anymore because I wasworking only half the time at this time.And I had some, you know, special working hours, I would say. And yeah, then day of judgement of my anniversary, I called the office to talk aboutmy work day for the next week and they gave me extremely, very bad times that I didn’t like, and I “ve told them”, Hey, I’m only wielding half experience. I really have too many hours previously, and it’s not … I’m not I dont feel good with this plan. And they told me, Yeah, but we need people.We have to do it. And I say, You know what? Just giveme times whatever you want, I will just cancel my job. And thenAnd then you quit? Yeah. And then they just gave me some reallystupid and really bad times, and then I precisely went to the office, I discontinue the job.And since that you have never worked for someone? No, simply for me.Thanks for watching the interview. This is Sebastian from Mother Russia. Please, subscribeto the channel. What do you enjoy “the worlds largest” about your job? Yeah. Just freedom. I intend, in the end I can utterly decide on my own when I want towork, what I want to do, where I want to promote, what furnishes I want to run. I’m not limitedto work on my computer at home, I can just leave if I just wanted to, in the summer I can justgrab my laptop and go to the garden and direct from there or if I want I can even go to thebeach and wreak. And it’s…In the end, it’s really, it’s complete freedom too. When Idon’t … when I really want to have enough to pay my trash, then I don’t need to work thatmuch. When I want to have more coin, then I direct more. So, in the end its total freedom.Do you want to be in affiliate marketing for the rest of your life? If possible, sure. I want, in all the years for sure I also thought about building a unit, I don’t know, improve an individual is do the media buying for me, or I likewise thought about buildinga bigger business, or come through here with own concoction, all these things.But in theend for me it’s also, it’s also recreation. I convey, I like to run expeditions, I like to, also Ilike to have an idea, to run into roadblocks, then to do some brainstorming and find solutionsfor my difficulties, to find a workaround, and it’s just For me it’s also exactly recreation. It’slike … I love to to sit in the front of my computer, to look at the screen, to look atthe tables, at the stats, at the numbers and to go through, to analyze it, to collect data, to track things down. It’s just for me … I I desire this stuff.How many hours do you expend in front of your computer? I would say … Really, when I truly should … On the average, I would say it’s really somewherebetween one and five hours or so. It’s Between one and five hours? Yeah.And how much do you stir monthly on average? That is something that depends. For me, I try so that I recognize I make at least, I would say, three thousandeuros to pay all my nonsense, three-four thousand euros. And that’s what I then construct without, yeah, without, you are familiar with, working too hard for it. And so, for me its really … Andin the end you can see it’s different steps. The first step for me is just that I wantto have enough to pay my invoices and to have a very good and unwound life.So, and thenI try to get it done with as less wield as is practicable. And, yeah, then I do the steps andI lope expeditions to reach the millennium development goals and then I try, the next thing is not that I try toincrease the money and then I magnitude with more work, but then I try to find a way if I canmake more money with the same work involved. And, yeah, when it’s good and it’s okay, butif not, then I have everything I need to pay my trash and then I’m too absolutely satisfiedwith it.So, you firstly try to reach three-four thousandeuros Yes….to pay your statutes. And merely have a good life-time, you are familiar with. Justhave a good and tightened live. Mm-hmm. So, but can we say that on the averageyou acquire between three and ten thousand, something like that? Yes, probably yes. And if you require it, would you be capable ofmaking more? Yes, sure as shooting. I symbolize, in the end it’s myown decision. It addresses my focus a little bit different. I emphatically know when IIt’s a thing when I are now working more, I would deserve more, but I don’t want to work more andso I don’t make more. And so, it’s a pretty easy calculation. Yeah, you are familiar with, in affiliatemarketing everyone dreams about Ferrari Yeah….cars, Hublot watches, and you seem to be different.Yeah, but for what? Yeah, address me these ones. Why don’t youwant to spawn more money? No , no , no. This is not … You cant saythat I don’t want to reach more coin. Sure, I just wanted to reach more fund, but most important, I don’t want to work more.And also this is for me I am, I told you, I never wanted torun a big business or something like this. I am really … And in the end I judge I’ma moderately down to earth guy and I don’t need much fancy trash or jewelry or luxury, it’snot that I don’t need it, even I don’t like it. So, for me, my priorities are little bitdifferent. What are your priorities? Yeah. In the end merely to have a unwound and a good living and too that I, it is importantthat I have enough time to also, to enjoy my life, you are familiar with, to have something frommy life. I make, well, what’s the sense of working 12 or 14 hours every day for your life? And then you perform I don’t know how much fund, but in the end what do we want to do withthe money? And then it’s the thing, then you can only go out then you can buy expensivestuff, yeah, and then you move much coin, “youve had”, you vest coin in expensive material, and for what? When you don’t have day for it.I mean, for what? This is It doesn’tmake really sense for me. And, so, Id rather try to focus that I, of course, I too liketo … don’t have to worry about things and I can compensate my substance, sure as shooting. I think thatthere we are all the same. But then I precisely want to have a unwound living and where Idon’t need to work that I also can enjoy “peoples lives” that I got something from my life andnot try get rich, or try to get rich or deserve as far as is possible. For me it’s just a normaljob and I crave just to do the job, to have a good revenues and thats all.Thats kind of interesting philosophy.I have never ever met a person like you in thisregard. But, you know, everyone should set points, but when you define them too high, thenyou probably you will never reach the goals. I necessitate, when you always want to get more, then you always occupation more and you want to get more and you are able to never be satisfied becauseyou always, you are familiar with, you’re always hunting for more, for more, for more.Can you say that you’re 100% satisfied with your life? Of track not.I intend … No , no, but this has nothing to do with … I represent, I guessprobably no one is 100% satisfied with his life. So, but I would say I’m on a good wayand likewise I think that probably with a suitable mindset you … Maybe I’m … I can easier getsatisfied than other parties. So, yeah, that is the battleship Aurora, basically.Most of, most of its crew affiliated the Bolsheviks during the Russian Revolution in 1917, andactually the Revolution itself, October Revolution, was signalled, the beginning of the revolutionwas signalled from that battleship. You be understood that gun? That’s how “thats happened”. So, it’slike real biography in here. But what about the shooting, you are familiar with, onthe palace? That was not here or ..? No, it was not here. That was, you know, haveyou seen the Winter Palace, which is the Hermitage now? Yes, yes. The arrange where we started. That is the WinterPalace. So, they shot at the Winter Palace from, from that battleship, and that’s howit all started.Yeah, that happened, like, a little bit over than 100 years ago.Pretty impressive. And now we stand here watching that ship.Pure history. Yeah, what … just what they say, thatswhere record was fixed. Yeah, and that had such a great impact onthe history of entire world, you are familiar with, that revolution.What do you like more in affiliate marketing in terms of doing stuff, like, coming up withcreatives or analyzing stats or programming substance or ..? What do you enjoy the most? Orprobably everything? Yes, coming up with artistics, as I’m notcreative at all, and I’m also…I I can’t come up with innovatives because I only can’t, you are familiar with. When I have ideas, I can’t get it on because I’m not a innovative person at all.So, this is when it comes to creatives, but when it comes to innovative attention, I would sayyes, but I’m not creative in areas of graphics or so , not at all. For me it’s really WhatI truly experience is when I got an idea and about writing and, you know, coding.That’sprobably what I genuinely enjoy because in the end I never learn something like this andI too, I can’t code at all. So, you have never properly learned coding? No, I can’t, I can’t even do simple HTML , nothing.And how is it possible then? How can you code your system? Yeah, I would say I’m a problem-solver. And for certain in all the years I know more or lesshow to read through the resources system, I understand the syntax and I know more or less what canbe done with what and what not. As you’re working on your own, precisely alone, I guess that many of your nonsense is well automated? Yes. And also I would say some of trash isreally done in a way that probably I am the only person who understands it.Can you describe me your system? How is that automated? What do you use to run your campaignson automation mode? On automation its pretty…it depends onwhat kind of stuff I’m running. For example, for…You mentioned that you run pops. Yes. For pops it’s…In the end for pa that’spretty easy. Testing, see if you have initial success or not, if yes, next stair would beto try to, you know, find a good ground sheet, furnish combination and “youve had” some very goodconverting set-up smart CPA safaruss, guided them pretty much riskless and collect datathat you can use and you don’t have, you know, you don’t have to maintain the campaigns.Platforms are doing the optimization, then you get out of that, you can then use forCPM campaign set-ups, from the beginning pretty good optimized because you can work with statisticsfrom the smart CPA So, its a kind of platform that does optimizationautomatically for your expeditions. Traffic sources itself, traffic generators itselfwho are doing the automation when they offer, you know, guiding campaigns on CPA, for example.You have been involved in affiliate marketing for, like, primarily 14 times, you have beenworking with traffic.What do you think about all those Google regulations in terms of advertising? When you think about the Google update, and I think it was in beginning of last year alsowhen they wanted to crack down on the dad material and so, and when everyone was thinkingpops will go down, you are familiar with, there will be no popping traffic.Yeah, we’re talking about it more or less. Yeah, and what happened there? Nothing , nothinghappened. Pop volume increased and it happened good-for-nothing. And I symbolize when you talk to the trafficsources, yeah, you can be sure they likewise prepared. I make, it’s not only we as affiliates orso that that be informed about informs that are coming. Traffic sources, they progressed as welland they also prepared for it. And then last month or when it was, you know, the famousChrome 71 revise that wanted to crack down on this deceptive ads and on sounds again andthat likewise wanted to crack down on carrier billing traffic. You know, there was a warningpage that should keep users away from signing up to because you don’t know how much youget billed.And so, and in the end what happened? Pop traffic is still there. For me at leastnothing truly changed. Do you think that papa under traffic is stillgood for amateurs to start? Yeah, sure. In my opinion, it’s not only good, but it’s even the very best for amateurs. So, for Because, on the one pas, we are seeingit’s a particularly cheap traffic begins with. You don’t need such a high budget to start with.What are you watch? How much you are able to invest for starting? At least $2,500 should be..That should be the amount that you can afford to lose.What various kinds of offers would you recommend for apprentices to start from? I would say most focus you are able to bring out sweepstakes, probably.Sweepstakes? Have you experimented with sweepstakes yourself? Yeah. But with sweepstakes I too … don’t get confused with sweepstakes. I don’t meanoften when people say, when I say sweepstakes, I imply the transition pour like sweepstakessingle opt-in, doubled opt-in LeadGen offers and too carrier statement sweepstakes. Theyare also still doing good. So, Asian countries, sweepstake various kinds of presents, sound under traffic, that is, like, a real combination for fledglings? It can, yeah, it is feasible. It would be good because in the end sweepstakes … the vertical itselfis, I would say, is good because there are always brand-new electronic manoeuvres or so.I planned, every few weeks or a month there is a new offer with, I don’t know, Amazon gift cardor a regional supermarket or whatever, and so, you are familiar with, you always have a brand-new equip ofnew offers, and too these volunteers are available for most countries. So, this is why it’s alsopretty good to focus on it. And yes, this and the vertical itself. I imply, everyonewants to have a, you know, get a new iPhone for free or whatever. It’s something…And for disembark sheets, what would you recommend to check firstly? Like, to go and spy or tocome up with your own doctrines? No , no, never come up with your own stuff, no. It’s just, you are familiar with I intend, I understand it.A friend of mine likewise hes he learned media designing and he likewise was you are familiar with, doing media blueprint when working in an advertising agency, but doing offline, you are familiar with, offlineadvertising. And, yeah, when I talked with him I wanted to tell him about this affiliatemarketing thing, then this report is also totally like a new world for him and he did not reallyunderstand all the things because it’s pretty different.And so, when, you know, start andeven when you have experience or you designed websites before and I … extremely if itsweb sites and not mooring pages, and in the end this knowledge you can just take it, putit in the garbage and start from scratch because there is nothing you can use for affiliatemarketing. But why do you think it is like that? I signify, ugly drives now and all … Because it’s different. I intend, when youin the end when you talk about doing a website and doing website motif, you are talkingabout more less content web sites and that, you know, have a, I don’t know, a navigationor whatever.And for for affiliate market, especially for dads, you just have a one-pagelanding straight to the point, you are familiar with, you have … There you have another goal in yourmind when you set up these property sheets. And so, this is why I believe when you haveyour own ideas … But they haven’t changed over the past severalyears at all, and I’m just wondering why they are still converting. I convey, parties haveseen them for the last 10 times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really … I still, I couldwonder about it but I don’t do because in the end I just don’t care about it. So, Idon’t want to know why they are the converting the same. You know, when you envision, when yousee commercials on TV and you ask yourself, why do they transmit it? I mean they, in Tv andin the large-hearted Tv, they waste I don’t know how many hundreds of thousands of dollars or eurosor so to get the commercials out. And then we envision the most stupid little movies and youask yourself, why do they do it? This can’t work, but, yeah, there’s only one rationalization, right? They communicate it again in the end because it’s working and it’s the same with landingpages.So, I also ask myself, why can I still flow the same landing sheets for two years orso and they are still converting? But in the end, boy, why should I be concerned about it? It’snot my problem. It’s altering. When you take these work site mooring pages, I usedthem about ten years ago already. And they’re still around? Yeah, and they are still one of the most significant forms. And why are they still out there? Because its still running. And so, in the end I’m … Really, I don’t care about why, I exclusively care about that they wield. Thats all I’m interested in.Do you think that in 2019 it’s still possible to learn affiliate marketing without any specificIT or selling background? To give it simply, can, I dont know, a bus motorist become anaffiliate with some endeavour? In the end, in the end, for sure.Sure it’spossible. I signify, affiliate market is dead is something you discover for … since I don’tknow how many, how many years, yeah. Yeah, everyone is saying that.You can predict most recently, you can read it in gatherings, yeah, but I listen affiliate marketingis dead, yeah. I heard it ten years ago once, affiliate sell is dead. And then probably, yeah, you will ever hear. But I make … The Internet is still there, the users arestill there, traffic is there, the department are still there. So, why should it not bepossible to start? Yesterday when we were having dinner you told me that affiliatesare probably the smartest parties on earth. Sure.Wouldn’t you want to apply your intelligence in more useful social area? For society? For what? I necessitate, really, what do you convey? Affiliate marketing is not something thatchange the world.Have you ever wanted to, you know, to got something that has an impact, good blow? For the world? Mm-hmm. No , not really. I necessitate, I want to have a goodimpact on my working life. And I conceive when everyone would just try to have a good and positiveimpact on their own life, then we didn’t, then we wouldn’t even need parties that havea good impact on the whole world. That’s right. Ok.Because of people like me, he stopped calling stream websites because of the annoyingadvertising. Yeah, tell me are you not disturbed yourselfof, you are familiar with, deceitful ads? Not actually. I represent, I think in my entirety lifeI also, I never exerted an ad blocker because in the end I’m a media buyer, I want to knowwhat’s running. And when these ads are deceptive and they are shown on a website, you are familiar with, I preferably … before I get annoyed, I very try to find out if it’s working or not.It’s kind of an advanced snoop implement for affiliates.Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. And I would rathertry to exploit it myself. I make, in the end, what I’m doing is I’m living from advertisingand I’m running papas. So, I’m living from ranging annoying circulars. And, yeah, when I see anything I very get interested before I get annoyed.So, Sebastian , now Yes….when you are relaxed and chilled let’s talk numbers a little bit. Can you tell meyour most successful campaign ever in terms of profit? Yes, and is not merely in terms of profit, but I would say its too the most successfulcampaign in terms of workload. They “ve got something” passing … it lasted for about six months, I make. I had average ad invested every day of three dollars, three dollars fifty , not more.And median gain per date rose between 800 and 1000 euros.Jesus Christ. And it lasted for six months? Yeah. And I did nothing.All the project I hadis that each day in the night I looked into the, you are familiar with, into the network, I checkedhow much I made. So, “youre gonna” doing like nearly $30,000 monthly? A month, yeah. With no work at all. I mean that my workload each day was maybe about1 0 to 20 seconds and even that I did not “re going to have to” do, it was just checking the stats, butapart from this, the campaign this was probably one of my classics andI guess it was well back in the working day, right? It was in 2012 to 2013. So, yeah, some timeago but not that long ago. I know that you too instruct people.Yes. Can you tell me why do you do that? Is thatfor coin or is that because you feel that you need, you are familiar with, to share all the knowledgethat you have? I really like or I recognize it certainly, it’sa really good feeling to really, to help people.I mean, I’m running this affiliate stuff for1 3 and a half times once, for almost 14 years, and I also loped some, you are familiar with, prettyblack, pitch-black hat and shady stuff and … So, this is what I call … for me its somekind of karma project because there I picture I can really help the people and they succeedwith what I did, what I educate them. And for me it’s that I truly feel it’s an .. justa really amazing feeling when you see that people who learn your nonsense then attained andwhen you can really, you know , now is the phase where understand maybe the first time in myaffiliate career where I can, I are genuinely commit some value back.You know that in the end of every interview we open some kind of bonus…Yes, perhaps . … to the people who, you are familiar with, just viewour show.Yeah, gives people a bonus.And I recollected probably we can give, we can have kind of competition.Yes. And as a reward we can have your, you are familiar with, private one-to-one coaching. What do you think about it? Sure, we can do it. Nice.I mean, I’m all in for it because, yeah, maybe it’s a good chance for people who are notyeah, to start. To start a successful career in affiliatemarketing. And you can train them on pop-under traffic, right? Yes. There’s something perhap we should say it’s not … “Its not about” affiliate marketingin general and it’s really, what I learn is truly rigorously limited to pop traffic.The rules for our competitors are pretty simple. Expressed support for our direct now on YouTube, then comment on this video.Just accord us an idea who would you like to see in our nextepisode, who do you like us to interview. Elaborate on that. The best comment will bechosen and an author of this statement looked forward to receiving an exclusive one-to-one coaching fromSebastian. Does it resound are you all right? Sure, perfect.Okay. We’ll pick them together. Okay, we can do.Cool. Thank you very much, Sebastian, for this interview. Thank you very much for makingyour way to Russia, to Saint Petersburg. That has been a big pleasure talking to you. Don’tforget to subscribe to our path. Here we talk to the most experienced and successfulpeople in the world of affiliate marketing. See you next time ..

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